Smithy Jones the problem is that there’s no bottom-up feedback mechanism in Communism
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Russell Clemens Membership (2019) 90,594,000 — I suspect that is a viable channel for sufficient requisite variety feedback to support effective State Planning. The trends imply success for a 1.2billion quanta economy rising out of 2-300 years of colonial pressure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_China
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Kevin Kennedy
Kevin Kennedy they do polls and questionaires, and if theres a serious problem in your town, they come and question people about how to make it right, and set measurable goals. if the leaders dont achieve those goals, they are questioned and/.or punished/demoted.
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones people never say what they really want to say, that’s the problem. It’s our very nature that’s the problem. We want to be told what we want to hear and if we don’t hear it then we either won’t believe it (even if it’s reality) or we’ll feel insulted be…See More
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones it is and has always been the problem with any system that isn’t democratic. And Capitalism actually accelerates democracy because in Capitalism people demonstrate their wants and needs to their leaders with their buying behavior …which, now is so fucking tracked that pretty much nothing gets misunderstood
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones the shining example of why Communism doesn’t work, and why it’s actually so fucking horrible to the people who suffer under it, was Chernobyl….Chernobyl is what happens when there is no effective and reliable bottom-up feedback mechanism in ANY system of social organization
It’s the basic reason for Unions in the Western world as well.
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Kevin Kennedy
Kevin Kennedy so listening to the complaints of your citizens, then making actionable measurable goals to improve is a recipe for people cowering and lying that everything is ok? there are thousands of protests every year in China.. Your reasoning doesn’t add up.
China is a meritocracy and is communist in name only https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0YjL9rZyR0
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Kevin Kennedy
Kevin Kennedy How is Democracy working for the US, Canada, UK, France, Italy, and Germany? A lot worse than meritocracy in China.. It’s all about party/oligarchy interests disguised as values. China defines values and realizes them for the most people possible. They have a long term plan that includes a way out of WW3 and win/win relations with other nations, which they respect as sovereign. Now THAT is leadership and vision
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Kevin Kennedy
Kevin Kennedy People ‘want’ drugs, wars, pollution, a surveilance state, fake news, and mindless entertainment according to spending habits. Where will that lead us in 50 years? A Brave New World if we’re lucky
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones my friend, let’s go back to this comment here that you made above:
“if the leaders dont achieve those goals, they are questioned and/.or punished/demoted.”…See More
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones the world is inestimably more complex than you believe it to be
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones the only reason why so many people believe that the world is falling apart is because that is how Advertisers, especially in the News Media, creates need and demand to compel people to panic buy shit that they don’t need
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones so…again…THAT is the problem with Capitalism and it sucks ass and I fight it every fucking day of life with full commitment, but as bad as this shit is, and as horribly monstrous that it is (the Advertisers) it’s STILL better than a Chernobyl event
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones so…let’s just join each other and focus on how to fight the real evil and that is Demand Side Economics
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones i.e. manufacturing LOSS
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones personally, I think China is a ticking time bomb BECAUSE of its system of Government and I for one am extremely happy to not just be on the other side of the world from it but also fully support Trump in stepping away from China as a trading partner for that very reason
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Kevin Kennedy
Kevin Kennedy You dont think leaders and representatives should be held accountable and to a standard? The question is are they applying the right standards for the right reasons? I believe Xi Jinping is and that his gov’t has been right to punish (maybe not with d…See More
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones they’re never held accountable, that’s my point
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones it’s just a show
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones people want blood..we’re fucking animals…blood fires us up and makes us FEEL like winners…this is basically what YOU’RE wanting right now too
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Kevin Kennedy
Kevin Kennedy What about the 1 million who were tried and/or punished from the CPC since Xi came in? That’s accountability, but That’s bad too right?
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones but that’s because you’ve been literally brainwashed by advertisers to feel loss …so, when you feel like you’re losing, you want to fight to WIN again
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones it’s not accountability, it’s a human sacrifice to calm the Gods
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones the fucking savages
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Kevin Kennedy
Kevin Kennedy No, I think a show is when you blame it all on one guy and execute him and go back to the same. Xi Jinping lead China is NOT business as usual I’m China
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Kevin Kennedy
Kevin Kennedy Ok so if they punish criminals it.is human sacrifice, and if they dont, nobody is held accountable for anything? How could they please you? Who should they emulate?
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones I’m not changing the subject but let me tell you a little story….about my Mustang
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones I have a Mustang..had it for about 4 years now…it’s red
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones I’m 48 and have owned, shit, maybe 15 vehicles in my life
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones but something really strange happens when I drive my Mustang
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Kevin Kennedy
Kevin Kennedy Is that the Herring model?
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones stay with me here, okay?
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones something strange happens when I drive my Mustang that has never happened with ANY other vehicle I’ve ever driven
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones and I used to sell Fords..I’ve worked at literally 5 Ford Dealerships and have driven a SHIT LOAD of Mustangs
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones but for some damn reason MY Mustang has a weird affect on people
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones for some fucking reason, when I drive my BRIGHT RED MUSTANG ….it seems to make other drivers WANT to challenge me
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones this is very fucking real
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones they cut me off
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones they try to race me on the highway
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones it’s seriously the weirdest shit
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones our bodies are just chemicals
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones bags of goo
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones we evolved to FIGHT and FUCK for survival
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones and the color RED makes us WANT to FIGHT
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones dig?
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones my friend, you are simply out for blood
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones and Western style democracies, founded on Rule of Law ..were actually designed to hem in and control our more monkey instincts, or our want for blood …to render us MORE human
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones or humane
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones let me ask you this…if you did get want you wanted 100% signed, sealed, and delivered…then what?
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones …you’d be happy?
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones ..or would you be bored out of your goard?
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones possibly even depressed?
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones a life in despair?
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Kevin Kennedy
Kevin Kennedy Happiness is a pursuit. There is an infinite perfectibility to the universe. If there is one person that is poor, or sick, or oppressed, if there is anything resembling war or empire or chaos, then we have plenty of work to do. This is the meaning of l…See More
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones well, once you understand all the sciences you’ll realize that the meaning of life (for our species) is just boobies and booty
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones which is why I bought a Mustang
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones
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Kevin Kennedy
Kevin Kennedy That’s an absurd, immature and ignorant
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Smithy Jones
Smithy Jones you’ll come around someday, trust me
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